Dimethazine

Diagram of molecule

Chemical Name(s):
17beta-hydroxy 2alpha,17alpha-dimethyl 5alpha-androstan 3-one azine
Chemical Formula: C42H68N2O2
Molecular Weight: 632
CAS: NA
Q Qatio: 2.2
Anabolic #: 210
Androgenic #: 95
Oral Bioavailability: Estimated at 40%
AR Binding Affinity: NA
SHBG Binding Affinity: NA
Half Life: NA
Legal Status (US): Not listed as a controlled substance
Average Dose:
20-40mg/day standalone
10-20mg/day when stacked
Average Cycle Length: 2-4 weeks
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Characteristics

Dimethazine is actually two steroid molecules bound together by a nitrogen atom. Upon ingestion, stomach acid separates the two steroid molecules that closely resemble methyldrostanolone (Superdrol).

Although dimethazine appears very similar to methyldrostanolone, the presence of a nitrogen at the 3rd position appears to increase its androgenic potency relative to its anabolic potency (210/95 compared to 400/20 for methyldrostanolone). Therefore, dimethazine could be considered a slightly weaker form of methyldrostanolone, but perhaps less likely to cause gyno related issues because of its higher relative androgenic value (and ability to antagonize estrogenic effects).

Otherwise, all side-effects and benefits could be considered relatively the same as methyldrostanolone. Liver toxicity and its associated side-effects of general sickness should still be expected, especially if the liver becomes compromised. Using a liver protecting supplement prior to and during a cycle of Dimethazine would be very important.

The quick gains in size and strength will likely be accompanied by increases in intense back pumps, high blood pressure, shortness of breath and oily skin. Vascularity would also be expected to improve with this compound due to the increase in extra-cellar water and possible decrease in subcutaneous water weight.

Because this compound is a 17aa oral, it is not recommended to be stacked with other 17aa oral steroids.

Common Clones:

Dymethazine by IForce


Related Discussion

The Official Dimethazine Thread
Posted by Eric

References

“Oral administration of an anabolic-androgenic steroid dimethazine increases the growth and food conversion efficiency and brings changes in molecular growth responses of carp (Cyprinus carpio) tissues”

LONE K. P. (1) ; MATTY A. J. ;
Nutrition reports international

“Contribution to the study of the proteoanabolic effects of dimethazine. (Clinical research)”
CEI C, ANSELMI G.
Gazz Med Ital. 1963 Feb;122:57-61

“A new steroid having proteo-anabolic action: dimethazine.”
DE RUGGIERI P, MATSCHER R, GANDOLFI C, CHIARAMONTI D, LUPO C, PIETRA E, CAVALLI R.Arch Sci Biol (Bologna). 1963 Jan-Mar;47:1-19.

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Desoxymethyltestosterone (Pheraplex, DMT, Madol)

Diagram of molecule

Chemical Name(s):
17a-methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol
17a-methyl-5a-androst-2-ene-17b-ol
Chemical Formula: C20H32O
Molecular Weight: 288
CAS: NA
Q Qatio: 6.5
Anabolic #: 1200
Androgenic #: 187
Oral Bioavailability: Estimated at 40%
AR Binding Affinity: NA
SHBG Binding Affinity: NA
Half Life: ~9 hours
Legal Status (US): Listed as a controlled substance
Average Dose:
40-60mg/day standalone
10-30mg/day when stacked
Average Cycle Length: 4 weeks
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Characteristics

Desoxymethyltestosterone (DMT) is a 17aa steroid with equal toxicity as other 17aa oral steroids. While nearly all anabolic steroid molecules have a 3-keto group, Desoxymethyltestosterone lacks it, and has a 2-ene structure. This compound is readily active and does not require conversion.

DMT does not aromatize, nor does it appear to have any progestational activity, yet some users still experience gyno symptoms and bloat from this compound. This is likely related to the lack of androgenic potency from this compound (to antagonize the effect of estrogen). DMT may also contribute to gyno by displacing estrogen (and testosterone) from SHBG. It has also been proposed that DMT can inhibit 11b-hydroxylase and thus increase intracellular sodium and water retention by building up mineralcorticoid levels.

Depending on where you look, DMT has been reported to be 2-12 times more anabolic and 0.4-2 times as androgenic as methyltestosterone. It has been proposed that DMT is a naturally occurring substance because it has an almost identical structure to delta 2-androstenol, a naturally occurring pheromone in mammals. However, being a 17aa steroid hormone makes it synthetically altered and not naturally occurring. Either way, it is now a controlled substance in the United States.

Users should expect significant strength increases, weight gain, and bloat. Weight gains upwards of 20lbs in 4-6 weeks are not unheard of with this compound. The most obvious physical side effects will be strong muscular pumps, shortness of breath, high blood pressure, oily skin, and bloating. If users wanted to minimize toxic effect on the liver or other side effects, DMT could be used at doses as low as 10mg/day for a decent effect.

Being that this compound is methylated, it should not be stacked with other methylated compounds. Having moderately low androgenic activity, DMT may negatively affect the libido and erectile function. This side effect could be offset by stacking DMT with testosterone or one of its non-aromatizing metabolites to preserve DHT levels.

Common Clones:

P-Plex by Competitive Edge Labs (CEL)
Phera-Plex by Anabolic Xtreme
Nasty Mass by Purus Labs
Phera-VOL by Engineered Sports Technology (EST)
PheraFLEX by IForce
D-Stianozol by Nutracoastal
Pheradrol by PH Design
P-Max by Growth Labs
Phera-MAX by Generic Labs
Phera-BOL by Juggernaut Nutrition
Phera-Mass by Kilo Sports
Straight Phlexed by Black China Labs

Related Discussion

The Official Desoxymethyltestosterone (Pheraplex, DMT, Madol) Thread
Posted by Eric

References

“Characterisation of the pharmacological profile of desoxymethyltestosterone (Madol), a steroid misused for doping”

P. Diel, A. Friedel, H. Geyer, M. Kamber, U. Laudenbach-Leschowsky, W. Schänzer, M.
Thevis, G. Vollmer and O. Zierau
Toxicology Letters; Volume 169, Issue 1, 28 February 2007, Pages 64-71

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